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Etiquette Exeter Style (Day 6)

By Ginger | September 23, 2009

After a wonderful walk around Exeter we remarked how chilled out this place is and how few arseholes there seems to be in Exeter.

Sure enough, come showtime, they all crawled from beneath their rocks to attend our gig.

Don’t get me wrong, there were a LOT of awesome people there too, presumably, also, having their evening ruined by meat heads.

What do I have to do to get rid of these people from our audience? Answers in the comment section below, please.

What kind of person pays to attend a show only to talk over the singer every time he tries to introduce a song? I will never live long enough to understand this logic. I mean, fair play if you have something funny or constructive to shout but these people aren’t even hecklers in the classic sense of the word. These are folk who consider any crap whatsoever to enter their brain to be of cultural importance. And will rudely cut off a public speaker in order to address their point of view. Manners, it has to be said, have not been taught to some people, unfortunate, then, that the least mannered appear to be the loudest mouthed.

They spoil your evening, they spoil ours and no-one wants them around. They wouldn’t be missed if they disappeared. So please, if you know anyone who enjoys shouting random insults when a hard working band are trying to introduce the next song they’ve spent ages rehearsing, if you know anyone who enjoys shouting over the singer because they get so little attention in their normal, dull lives, could you please ask them nicely to stop coming to our shows? We don’t want their money and we definitely don’t want their company.

I’m so sorry for the idiots of Exeter spoiling what should have been an amazing, warm, funny, informative night. We will play places on this tour, full of people who want to listen to us, and this desire goes so deep that they will actually shut their mouths at the appropriate times in which to do so. Unfortunately you have had your one evening spoiled slightly.

Having said that the band played a faultless set and Ritch split two snare heads due to excessive battering. No one else on this tour got that, so all was not lost.

Exeter, lovely place. Not as keen to play there again, though, as I am to come back for a visit.

Day off today. Get to see my family and chill out for an entire 24 hours. Tomorrow we play Birmingham. I love playing Birmingham. Bring it on.


28 Responses to “Etiquette Exeter Style (Day 6)”

  1. Nige Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 16:08

    Despite the mentioned meatheads Exeter was another great gig, but it did lack the lighter enjoyable atmosphere of the excellent Bristol gig.
    One thing I would like to say to Ginger if he is/you are reading this, is thankyou. I’ve seen loads of Wildies gigs now from about 1992 onwards, and when things go wrong… well sometimes the whole performance suffers (Last year at the Forum for example), and I go away feeling a little pissed off and shortchanged as I know the band are so much better than that. However last night you did keep your chin up and still played a great set despite the assholes.
    So thanks, it is appreciated and I understand it must be hard sometimes to keep your cool, but for us that travel it makes it all the better.

    On another note how many others have found Chutzpah a huge grower, especially after hearing it all live?

    And how fuckin good are Black Spiders!!

  2. Danny B Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 16:12

    Couldn’t agree more! Saw you in Bristol where the banter was good-natured and Ginger was hilarious. Last night the crowd was a bit unusual (for want of a better word), still I had a wicked time singing along to favourites both old and new. Now roll on Birmingham x

  3. gimpli Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 16:12

    Have to agree, why do people shout out thinking their funny, when the rest of us want them to shut the fuck up!!!
    I however had a great time as did my mates, it was great to see them in my home town after travelling around to watch them.
    Don’t let wankers spoil it Ginger, will kick the fuck out of them next time, please come back, we loved ya.
    Black Spiders do indeed ROCK!!!

  4. Gallifrey Seven Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 16:47

    As much as I subscribe to the principle of pacifism (I think someone wrote a song about that once:-)), I do firmly believe that when a kicking is deserved, a kicking is what I have going spare in my pocket…

    …so from now on I for one will be happy to tell any offending persons where they can, indeed, stick it.

    Some people need to learn from an (unknown) very wise man – “My freedom ends at the place where it prevents yours”.

  5. Wez Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 16:52

    i suppose the easiest thing to do, if you can pinpoint 100% who it is, is ask security to remove them? i dare say it must be bloody frustrating.

    mates band played a local gig on Saturday when some wanker threw a stool at him. me mate jumped off stage, bass still in hand and chased him out the doors, down the street….

  6. Gaz Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 17:01

    Not even the arseholes could spoil the night for me, and try not to let them bother you either, the vast majority of people are there to enjoy it and support the band.

    The gig itself was among the best i’ve attended, the band seemed tighter and more focussed than ever before and hearing Chutzpah! live was an uplifting, almost religious experience.

    The Wildhearts usually leave me wanting more when the gigs over. this time out though they didn’t, but not in a bad way. You get a feeling that the band are at the top of their game and was the most satisfying gig i’ve attended, just left a warm feeling inside knowing that even if they were to split tomorrow(not that they will) and never play live again, i will still have this to remember, and what a fucking memory it is!!

    Well played guys, though you do realise you now have come up with something even better for the next tour???

    Black Spiders are indeed fuckin good, and No Americana surprised me too, especially the last 2 songs.

  7. Iain Smith Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 17:06

    Alcohol increases volume………FACT!!! (well a wiki-fact).

  8. mojo Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 17:09

    I have been going to see you guys since ’93 when you supported Alice in Chains at Brixton Academy, and attended gigs in Manchester, Portsmouth, London and several in Bristol. The nearest I had seen you was Torquay some years ago, so I was chuffed to hear you were actually coming to our neck of the woods. People in Exeter moan constantly that bands don’t come past Bristol very often and then they go and fucking ruin it when you turn up. And who’s gonna suffer. Real fans. Not the mouthy dickheads who have obviously no true love for the music or the band, as they won’t give a fuck so long as they can find some other gig to act a prick at.

    Gutted you had you Exeter visit spoilt, for what it is worth,I had a great evening.
    So I guess it’s Bristol from now on then.

    Exeter, shame on you!!

  9. Tom Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 17:38

    Totally agree with you Ginger, my evening was being ruined by some meat head somewhere behind us bawling an incomprehensible noise between songs. Unfortunately when you reacted to this, it encouraged him more. In addition to this some guy next to us started shouting for Suckerpunch, he’d been planning this before the start of the show, he’d seen what you said about the Norwich gig in the blog and thought it would be a good idea to provoke a reaction. When Me, my brother and a few people turned on him and told him to shut the fuck up, he did, and skulked off to the side of the room.

    These people are arseholes, but unfortunately some are responding to what they’ve read here.

    The real fans among us can out them and shame them, if that fails we can give them a beating when we leave the show, but I don’t think we will ever stop them. These arseholes are at every gig I go to, doing the same thing. They make up 1% of the audience, but in an intimate venue like Exeter Phoenix we can all hear them more.

    On a positive note, it was fucking fantastic to hear the new album in full and have now booked the day off work to go to Birmingham.

  10. Joe Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 18:19

    First off, I have to say, please please please do not let the arseholes put you off playing Exeter again – we get soooooo few bands playing down here that it makes what happened all the more disappointing – this year it’s basically been Feeder, The Wildhearts and Bowling for Soup. As you suggested, manners are free and seemingly we don’t have any. Bummer. The performance in terms of playing didn’t suffer at all, so cheers for not letting that happen.
    It didn’t spoil the night so much as make me ashamed to be associated with such a bunch of front bums, as musically, it was fucking awesome. Pretty much the best I’ve ever seen you guys play. I am stunned at how well the band played the new album (that can’t have been easy), and I must say that despite the new Muse album being really rather good, I can’t listen to anything but Chutzpah. And the stand up routine was genuinely very funny, very Ross Noble. Shame we didn’t get to hear more.
    So in short, don’t let a few twats put you off coming back to what I have found to be a genuinely lovely place since moving down a year or so ago. Please!!?! ‘Cos if you don’t come back, and people get wind of the fact that its frankly not worth coming, a night out here will consist of the Wurzels, the Exmouth Shantymen or Cannon and bloody Ball. You wouldn’t want to be responsible for that, would you?

  11. Stephen Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 18:57

    Will the Brum show be attended by cunts? Don’t know, though I’m happy to form an alliance against such bullshit, I imagine others would be too.

  12. ChrisG Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 19:16

    OK I had never been to a Wildhearts gig before but thought they were great at Exeter.Have just bought the new album as a result.I really thought that the “banter” was part of the gig ? I didn’t realise how pixxed Ginger was about it until I read this -and yes I have been to gigs of all sorts all my lif,and I am getting on a bit.It happens all over .Shame they are not coming back as I have been telling everyone at work how good they were.
    Great set to from the Black spiders-and as for the drummer……….

  13. tjk Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 19:23

    why do these cunts even show up to gigs? if the people on stage are unhappy how is anybody else supposed to enjoy it?thankfully there was none of this shit at bristol.

  14. EdH Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 19:54

    Sorry a few idiots spoiled it for you. I was absolutely chuffed you made it to Exeter as it’s only a short drive for me.

    Dickheads aside I really enjoyed last night. Made a point of not buying Chutzpah until I’d heard it played live – have just order the Japanese version. The new songs were amazing.

    First time I’ve seen you play since Bristol on the 1995 tour. The “Classics” set was a real nostalgia trip for that first time. You were just as awesome as you were then.

    Please, please, don’t let the idiots put you off playing Exeter again. You’re only the second band I’ve seen play live more than once. Do come back next time round so I can make you the first I’ve got the hat-trick for!

  15. AB Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 20:01

    Guys, it’s been a long time since those early days at Nomis Studios etc! Please don’t let a couple of idiots put you off coming back to Exeter ….or indeed further west!! The new material ROCKS live! Keep it up, see you again. Andy B

  16. MarkL Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 22:01

    I was at the Exeter gig, I thought that the guy shouting for Suckerpunch was being ironic (as it sounds like he was). The other guy shouting off to our left with a lisp was a bit annoying, but I think Ginger you were right when you said the guy with the PA is always the loudest one there!

    Don’t let anyone shouting back spoil it, the rest of us are ignoring them, just do the same and then they look the idiot!

    Was a great gig though, me and my girlfriend’s ears are still ringing. It was her first gig too and she loved it!

  17. p. Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 22:13

    well im not from round here but have lived in plymouth for 6 years now and the attitude about music is shit.
    lots of people round here believe when a “big” band comes down that theyr owed something.
    i knew ginger would make a rant here and rightly so.
    the cunts behind me heckling were fucking no it all cunts (strong words but its true)all they did was go on and on and they were the same people doing it at other shows….i know this because they were talking about it and as the person above mentioned they were trying intentionally to fuck ginger off.
    if i were you ginger i would call em out.
    i also know that the very same cunts were trying to bash the shit outta people for the fuck of it….
    call sucker punch in the boozer when i see you next because you will fucking get it.
    rant over…

  18. Stephen Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 00:54

    Ginger, I am totally wearing my Never Mind The Headliners T-shirt tomorrow night. Say hello if you see me, I am super fucking excited. Don’t let the cunts get to you, hopefully we won’t see any in Brum anyhow.

    Again, I’m super-fucking excited.

  19. Greg Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 09:53

    The gig in Exeter was truly awesome. I had seen the Wildhearts on many occasions and a couple of times down here in the South West, Plymouth & Portsmouth. To see them in Exeter was fantastic. It meant I could see the gig and not take time off work! lol

    No Americana certainly entertained and I’ll be looking at their “free” downloads. Not too impressed with the Black Spiders, they certainly played well though.

    Then the crowd notice Scott sneaking around the back to grab his bass and then Ritch follows & Ginger & C.J. finally take the stage to a huge roar!

    The intro to Chutzpah! is played and the Jackson Whites follows. A the end of the song there is a technical hitch with Scott’s bass and Ginger does his stand-up routine. Cue the Assholes!

    I haven’t been to this site in a while and had no idea of the Ginger one’s hatred of said assholes. It was certainly apparent at the gig though.

    One thing that did make me wonder was that at other gigs, Ginger has entertained this kind of heckling. Listen to “Grevious Acoustic Behaviour” and tell me that the asshole who keeps shouting out “thunderfuck” and the rest, doesn’t piss you off!!!! 🙂

    I am not condoning the assholes who obviously try and piss the performers off, I had one stood right in front of me & maybe if this had been my first Wildhearts gig back in ’94 i’d have knocked the twat out. But I’m too old for all that 🙁

    It would be a tragedy if the Wildhearts do not return to Exeter. Ginger you said it yourself at the start of the gig….. there are fucking hundred’s of pretty girls in Exeter!!!!! Gotta be a bloody good reason to return!

  20. Will Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 10:57

    Firstly can I say how much I enjoyed the Exeter gig. I’ve had a particularly shit year and have had this date marked in the calendar for months as something to look forward to once life started to return to normal. I’ve been really enjoying the new album and thought it was an honour to hear it played in full live. Great to hear a band challenge themselves, keeping things fresh and alive for a new and hopefully successful new era. Also the second set was awesome and great to hear 5 Long Days given an airing. Looking at the setlists from other gigs it looks as though you’ve been playing loads of different material, and not just settling for the easy option of playing a set of standards. Well Done.

    As for the crowd, I think this is sadly a reflection of the lack of music scene in Exeter. Bands tend to miss Exeter on their way to Plymouth or more often than not don’t travel further down than Bristol, or sometimes Birmingham.
    If Exeter had more bands rolling into town, the idiots would be diluted. As it is there are so few bands coming that when one does play, it tends to attract a random crowd whether they are interested in the band or just up for a few shandys. If THE WiLDHEARTS or any other band were to start boycotting Exeter than I feel that this would only compound the problem. You are never going to be able to control who comes along, how much they’ve drunk or whether they’re into the band, so I think this sort of behaviour, although unacceptable, should be taken on the chin.

  21. Paddy Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 13:03

    Exeter IS generally a chilled out city as you say but because of that the obnoxious useless twats are far too easily spotted but in the city they usually get dealt with but in a crowd like that they just shout their abuse and then hide like the bums they are!
    You would have thought you’re comment about the mic and PA always being louder would’ve shut them up but apparently some people just don’t take hints!
    Don’t think that they are indicative of the people of exeter as 99% of that crowd were there to have a good time and enjoy the music and appreciate the effort you made in coming here instead of turning your tour back up north at bristol.(If you are gonna come just for a visit I’ll happily take you on a tour,with pub crawl obviously, there’s loads of stuff not in city centre)
    Both supports were pretty good but I have to say No Americana seemed more up for it and energetic(and because of that the better of the two live).
    Your sets(both new-thanks for the treat of full chutzpah!-and old-damn good random crowd pleasing tracks )kicked arse so much that I forgot about the stinking cold I’ve had and danced like a lunatic and(2 days after)I still ache so much that I feel like I’ve got whiplash!

  22. Bonzo Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 14:52

    Ginger, you gotta ignore those f*ckers. You owe it to the good guys in the crowd (99.9%). Everyone wants to go home happy and fulfilled and it’s a burden you have to carry mate. Positive thinking!!!!

  23. Izzy Fuxx Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 16:32

    Ginger I think you should give those fuckers the attention they crave and deserve, by asking the crowd to make sure they leave the venue without their teeth! 😉
    See u saturday!

  24. ade Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 18:51

    I saw Motorhead at the Exeter Lemon Grove about 3 years ago and the crowd there managed to piss Lemmy of by chucking things and hurling abuse, must be a minority of gig going tossers spoling it for the other 99% of us in exeter!!!!!

  25. Kieron yeoman Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 21:56

    I Completely agree. I was the kid in the second to front row, who is indeed younger than the guys shirt that was next to me, at the exeter gig! Laast time i saw you was 2002 in torquay and i broke 2 of my ribs by being crushed when i was 12. Now when your comeing back to a 30 mile radious, the randome piss ends have to piss all over what could have been a fantastic gig! I mean i loved it all the way from The Jackson white right through to I wanna Go Where The People Go, but Jesus! Let The guys on Stage Speak!!

  26. dean runnerbean Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 22:19

    Hey Ginger! finally got to see you at pompeys best venue ‘the wedgewood rooms’, yeah its a poky little hole but its tight and the atmosphere is magnified by a good band on that small stage! The pompey crowd were great eh? I was suprised by how laid back and happy we were! As for heckling or shouting for other songs etc….i am guilty of this, not at the wildhearts tho, but many others, 99% got raptuous laughter cuz i am soo funny and cool etc haha! My best heckle was watching the cardiacs, to cut a long story short my puchline was calling Tim Smith a wanker, he turned around and agreed and accepted my heckle! This is one of the greatest heckle-memories i have. Fuck the shit shouters and hecklers, morons, arseholes etc, just play dudes!
    Also, thanks for the Tim Smith update and words of love from you, i cannot wait for you to come back to pompey (as promised).
    Long live the Wildhearts! x

  27. M@M Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 10:52

    I worked as a security guy in glasgow years ago and this is something that I just did not like. I hate people who turn up and ruin the gig for people. Nothing wrong with shouting out something but to do it the whole gig. Nae chance id have had him out on his ear.
    Thing is people wait sometimes years to see bands play live and it can be a real big thing in someones life and to have an arsehole like that ruin it is not on.
    As a fan of music and live music I have been to many gigs and a few times have asked someone to calm down. Most people have a drink more than they are used to and take the comment well but now and then you do get a total nugget that will not listen.

  28. Luke Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 22:28

    Rise above it guys – it was a great gig (and I’ve seen you a dozen times over the years..) next time you come to Exeter – and you will, don’t forget the girls! – we’ll sort ’em out for you!!


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